Larry: Yes, I mean that’s cool, a lot of the kids cartoons – some of the kids might think it’s fun. I’m not saying there’s no reason for them – they just don’t appeal to me as much, personally and on artistic level.
I’m an avant gardy artist guy, but I also have this classic sensibility when it comes to approach to art. My background comes from this disrupt-this-status-quo-thing. Also, when I teach – the first question when I hold a workshop – I always ask what’s the most famous painting in the world?
Yes, no-one’s ever gotten that question wrong. It’s a girl standing on a terrace. That’s where I go – why is that so special? A lot of it has to do with the backstory. Something you can add to your own work. Lot of my work has huge amounts of backstory. If you look at my Instagram feed, there’s double or triple entendre’s. Sometimes the messages are more personal: actually to people.
Have you seen the painting?
I haven’t seen the painting in person. I know it’s tiny. And there’s two of them as well cause he’d made two paintings.
When you go there, there’s 20 people in front of you and you’re watching it from 10 metres away.
Larry: Yes, you’re like “Ok that’s enough”. [laughs] But it’s a philosophical approach: you don’t have to reinvent the wheel to make it special. There’s a reason why we tell the same stories over and over throughout the generations.
Also, when you’re trying to reach broader markets, it’s nice to tell things that a lot of people can relate to. People relate to things that are classic and beautiful. You don’t have to explain so much. Sometimes people try too hard, try to be too clever. For me, the idea is only as good as the execution. It’s all about the final product.
How about your expectations for working here?
Mikko: I’m looking forward, generally. There isn’t one thing, there are many things I’m looking forward to. So far, the first couple of weeks have been fun. A lot of new things, a lot of interesting projects – and now it’s about getting your hands on it.
Getting your hands dirty already?
Larry: Yes, we filmed stuff already, made something simple: how do you make a 4:3 room look special? There’s nothing but a couple of pipes.
Yes, been there.
Larry: I know, and it’s just about wanting to. I have a passion for making images. I like that they’re giving me the opportunity to do what I love. I wanna take that level and show – in this market particularly – my vision is: now someone has empowered me to show what I can do in this market.
In general, where is the video industry going?
Mikko: Online, better stories…
Larry: I think it’s already here, it’s everywhere, it’s going where it is. Everything will be video.
Mikko: Going to drones and gimbals. [laughs] Which are bad.
Larry: They’re not bad. They’re just tools. They’re the safe go-to thing. You know, “I’ll go buy us a bag of chips. I like them, they’re not so great for me though. But everybody likes chips, everybody will have some. You have too many bags of chips and it will make you sick.” That’s how I feel about video at the moment. [laughs] And this is not just the old guy talking… I’m actually not the guy that has a problem with youth.
Mikko: You can be old and grumpy.
Larry: That has nothing to do with how I feel about younger generations, like “Oh the millennials”. There’s been a little bit of lack of mentorship with younger generations. I put the blame more on the older generation. We could teach people to think more autonomously, empower them to have some more tools. Not just buy whatever the new gimmick is this week.
The tech side has got us lazy: “Go out and do it quick, we can do a lot in post.” It’s like plastic surgery. The more plastic surgery we get, the more we look alike.